Interesting "Y"s

    From time to time you send us cars that are slightly different from the norm, or ones that we would like to follow.  These will be set up on separate pages so that you can browse them without loosing sight of them as they would have fallen from the news.  To view an individual car in detail, please click on the thumbnail picture.  Use the Back button in your browser to return to this page, or click on the button in the contents frame.

    If you have a Y that differs from the "norm" - please send details and pictures to the webmaster and we will look to add to this page.

Rallying Ys

Special Bodied Ys

Unique Features

in production Ys

Ys and Celebrities

YA Restorations

YT Restorations

 

YB Restorations

 

Rallying Ys

YB 1148 Len Shaw's MG YB

An up close and personal look at a unique car..

A Rallying MG YB

YB 0291

Rallying Y

Another Y we currently know nothing about - but it looks a whole lot of fun ... from Holland.

The YB participating in the following rally's: Tulpen rally 1997, Marathon classic 1998, Coppa Classic 2004 and more.  The driver Lisa also drove the Scheveningen-Luxemburg-Scheveningen (SLS) in 2005 and Munchen-Salzburg-Munchen the Bavaria Rally 2005 and is going to drive the Sardinian classic 2005 with the YB.

On the chassis bulkhead there is a plate which says Manufactured by Nuffield metal products LTD Birmingham England number.522 and in the right bottom side it has a number: Z12488.  On the engine itself it has a different engine number than on the manufacturing plate located on the the heater enclosure which is BP15GB2724 (as fitted to MG ZB Magnette).  The original number is XPAG/SC2/17156. Now you know better what engine it is as when do and what the original engine is like ore das anyone has it.  As we are driving so many rally's with the YB and it is Lisa's favourite car we use a lot of spare parts.  Now we have a broken drive shaft from the SLS rally and are also looking for another diff because the 5.125 is to short for the prepped up engine. it makes 6000 RPM.  I hope I gave you some good info on the YB and more will follow.

Special Bodied Ys

Y 1805

Y 1805 is the Y originally owned by Al Moss, then sold to the late Skip Kelsey, and now owned by Marvin Soroken.  Al did a total 'nut and bolt' restoration of the Y, then fitted an MGA rear axle, wire wheels, and a Shorrock supercharger.  He also fitted radial tyres with MG TD wire wheels and modified the rear wheel arch making it significantly deeper.

Shorrock supercharger

Note the deeper rear wheel arch

  "In the 1960s, Roger Barlow, then co-owner of International Motors, purchased a complete Y-Type chassis and had the [MG] factory ship it direct to Castagna in Italy. (Carrozzeria Castagna was one of the leading Italian coachbuilders of the era).  Roger had designed a beautiful drophead coupe body for the Y-chassis, which he had fitted with chrome Borrani wheels.

"When the car arrived Los Angeles, Roger brought it to my Venice Boulevard shop and together we put the finishing touches to the car and at the same time I installed a Shorrock supercharger.  As strikingly beautiful it was, it proved to be a slug performance-wise due to its weight.

"The following two pictures which I took of this rare and beautiful M.G. may be the only ones of it in existence today."

Extract and photographs by kind permission from Al Moss and his book Moss's MG Memories - see Book Review for more details.

Another Y pick up - this time in The Netherlands

More shots of this car:

australiaA four-door Y pick-up, or 'UTE' from Australia.  It began life as Y 2008!

MG YT inspired

MG TD Inskip Special

Often the point of much derision and criticism in it's day, it is interesting to see that at least one contemporary special car manufacturer took the inspired design of the YT seriously enough to produce an MG TD four seater variant to emulate the YT!  More details here.

Zagato bodied special

MG Y Type

In 1948, specialist car body builders Zagato fashioned this special "panoramic" body (left) and showed it off next to a standard Y Type.  If any one can supply us with more information, please do so.

YB 1551

The last Y chassis ever

YB 1551

YB 1551 - the last Y chassis ever made was converted into a special race bodied car for Dick Jacobs.

Y 1373 Beutler

Special Bodied Y

Y 1373 chassis given special body work by Swiss coachbuilder, Beutler.

Ramseier

Special Bodied Ys

Three YA chassis given special body work by Swiss coachbuilder, Ramseier.

YB 0317

Y Type Pick Up

Y Type Pick Up

More details about this 'interesting' Y conversion from the current owners, Andrew and Arlene Coulson - a YB pick up.

Y Hot Rods

Brazillian Y Type Hot RodUK Y Type Hot Rod

Two MG Y Type Hot Rods -  from Brazil, and from the UK.

MG Y Breakdown truck

Y Type Breakdown Truck

Another interesting MG Y van conversion.  Present country of residence - unknown.

Probably quite a unique car that surfaced in the late 70's - early 80's. The picture may have been taken at one of the MGCC SE centre weekends in Kent (Hucking/Wealden). I think it had come over the pond from Belguim or Holland and was very professionally turned out.  Does any one have any further information on this vehicle?

YT 2430

YT 2430

This is my YT as I received it in 1999.  Note the headlights flared into the fenders and the modified bonnet.  I kept these in case it will give me a clue as to who did it and the cars past history.  But I am restoring the car back to factory original.  Anybody out there have a picture of this car from the early 1960s or 1950s.  Does anyone out there have any knowledge as to the origins of these modifications?  If so, I'd  like to hear from you please.  Wayne Mussleman, North America Representative

Y 4608

Y 4608

australia Current owner, Phil Stafford, Victoria, Australia

MG Y Type race car

Y 6089

Y 6089

Current owner, Sandy Henderson, Somerset UK.

Unique Features in production Ys

Dash switches

Bill Roberson sent in this picture of his special dash switch panel. Believed to have been fitted from new, the two extra switches control an additional fog / spot lamp on the front of the car, and the other the blower for the heater.

YA with anti-roll bar

Steve Randle's unique YA featuring factory fitted anti-roll bar.

Ys and Celebrities

Sidney Joseph Perelman's YT

Sidney Joseph Perelman, the noted humorist and writer who wrote many of the scripts for the Marx Brothers films, owned a 1949 MG YT Tourer car which he purchased in Bangkok. Later he drove it to Paris and in 1978 decided that he would return to the Far East in the very same car.

Johnston Lock has been able to provide the following additional information for us from a book called “Don’t Tread On Me the selected letters of S. J. Perelman" edited by Prudence Crowther and published by Penguin, complete with page references.

Perelman did indeed purchase the Y in Bangkok in May 1949 but took delivery of it in England at the end of June, intending to drive it through the Scandinavian countries [p. 97]  It was put up on blocks  from 1970 to 1977 at a neighbour’s in Erwinna Pennsylvania.[p330]  He proposed to drive it from Paris to Peking and was having it overhauled to prepare for the trip.  It was shipped to England in late June of 1978 [p 342] for a proposed departure from Paris on Sept. 1st with two companions from Britain and towing a trailer loaded with things needed along the way.  They left Paris on Sept 1st  and drove through central Europe, the Balkans, Turkey, Iran and Pakistan.  En-route, they encountered floods, heat earthquakes and rebellions. [p353] They arrived in Islamabad on Sept. 28th [p 353].  After 25 days of driving they arrived at Bombay  having travelled 7,700 Miles.  [p345].  From Bombay the car was shipped by air to Hong Kong where it was  on Nov. 9 [p346].  Here Perelman waited 6 weeks for permission to enter the Chinese mainland.  His companions left after 4 weeks and returned to England.  Perelman drove on to Peking.  Here he became ill and sent the car back to Southampton by ship.  Unfortunately, there was a trucking strike there and the car was not offloaded but went on to Hamburg where it was offloaded and lost .  But it must have been found again for the last reference to it was that it was in Pipersville, PA. Being restored to American standards in September of 1979. [xxvi]  Perelman died in October of that year.

Details of how Sidney came to acquire the YT, and preparations for the Paris-Peking trip with Eric Lister, and the Sidney Beer are also detailed in Eric Lister's book "Don't mention the Marx Bothers".  Details of both books, including ISBNs can be found on our Book Review page along with a few more pictures of Sidney Perelaman and the car.

Gene Tierney's Y

Gene Tierney's Y Type

Gene Tierney's Y Type

Famous film star, Gene Tierney, (19 November 1920 - 6 November 1991) at one stage owned a Y!  Here is a picture of her with her Y Type.

Gene's acting career spanned from 1940 to 1961 as she stared in many films such as Laura 1946, Night and the City 1950, Way of a Goucho 1952, Plymouth Adventure and Never Let Me Go 1953, Personal Affair 1954, The Egyptian and  The Left Hand of God, 1955 to name but a few.  During her life, she was linked with many famous people including Howard Hughes, Aly Kahn and John F Kennedy.

The second picture was shown in The Autocar, November 25, 1949 - I wonder where UMG 20 is now?

YB 0976

Charlie Dimmock taking a look at 1953 MG, with its owner, Lindsay Gates, at Wellow Fete.

YB 0976

Charlie opens record-breaking Fete

TV GARDENER and presenter Charlie Dimmock opened Wellow Fete on Sunday.
Charlie, who grew up in Wellow, had her mother Sue Dimmock at her side.
During the fete Charlie was more interested in vintage cars than horticultural matters - paying particular attention to a 51-year-old MG owned by Lindsay Gates.
The fete raised in the region of £1,800 and the cash will go to the Wellow and District branch of the Royal British Legion.
Chairman of the Wellow Fete committee, Frank Moody, said: "It's probably a record amount of money raised and I am very pleased."
Attractions at the traditional English village fete included a juggler, a vintage car display, a tae kwan do display team from Romsey and music from Shaftesbury Town Band.

Romsey Advertiser 23 July 2004

YA Restorations

Y 0900

Y 0900

Sri Lanka Current owner, Chanaka Jinasena, Sri Lanka.

A real barn find - follow this ground up restoration.

A V8 Y Special

V8 Y Type

australia Current owner, unknown - first name Garry, Australia.

This car is definitely NOT for the purists!  It has been fitted with a Rover V8 3½ litre engine!

YT Restorations

YT 3208

YT 3208

australia Current owner, Richard Prior, Perth Western Australia..

This car has been fitted with an MGB engine, OD gearbox and running gear.

YT 3477

YT 3477

australia Current owner, Geoff Meller, New South Wales, Australia.

Follow the rebuild of his YT here.

YT 3706

YT 3706

australia Current owner, Robert Ades, Victoria, Australia.

In case there was any interest in the technical improvements I've been quietly making, I thought I'd send these as a separate e-mail, including a picture.  I hope this is of interest.

YT 4265

YT 4265 then

YT 4625 now

australia Current owner, David Ardill, Ballina, New South Wales, Australia.

There are two articles available from David, A Sporting Heritage, and YT 4265, a Restoration.

The article on the restoration of YT 4265 is also available as a pdf.

YB Restorations

YB 0251

YB 0251 - the first production YB ever, resurfaces!

YB 0805

YB 0805

Nico Dreesen's pictorial history of the restoration of YB 0805 in English.