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The idea behind this section is not to produce a 'Bible' for MG owners, but to distibute as many tips as possible for keeping your pride and joy on the road for longer without the need for a second mortgage. Hopefully you'll save money and have more road time in your MG by learning from other people's experiences.
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Considering the number of people that read this section, contributions have been few and far between, so come on, send your Technical Tips today!
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Hopefully this will grow to the point where it can be split up into different sections to cover all the models
I have put the current list of 'Tips' into a table, I hope this will help you to browse thru the topics on offer, more easily.
No this is not an article about neat cars, but things that we might consider inspecting on our collector car cooling systems. These will minimize any problems in this area during the hot summer driving season. What I am going to do is to take a look at the individual components of the cooling system with regards to their inspection areas.
Radiator - This part of the system is often overlooked until there is a visible problem such as apeak. First the radiator core needs to be cleaned on the outside. Insects, leaves, etc. will greatly effect the efficiency of the radiator. Second, make sure that there is nothing blocking air flow to the front side of the radiator. Remember, plaques, badges and novelty license plates may be fun, but they can all block air flow. It ls also a great idea to flush the cooling system with a cleaner annually to eliminate corrosion and internal contamination. They are very detrimental to the heat (transferability) of the radiator and internal engine water passages. Radiator caps don't go on forever. They should be replaced after several years to make sure that they continue to seal and function properly.
Cooling Fans - Look at the blades to make sure they are not cracked or loose on the hub. If you haven't seen what happens when a fan breaks, you don't want to. It Isn't a pretty sight!
Hoses & Belts - lf they haven't been changed for awhile (5 years is maximum), it is about time. If you aren't going to change them, tighten all the hose clamps and re-tension the belt(s).
Thermostat - There isn't really much to do, unless you want to change to 160o for summer use from your old weather thermostat. Many cars will run hotter without a thermostat installed because the coolant moves too fast through the radiator and doesn't have enough time to transfer the heat away from the coolant. You might want to check with other people with the same type of car you have, for their experience before running without a thermostat. Just a note about thermostat rating: A 160ostart to open at 160oF and gives full flow at 180oF. This 20oF rule generally applies to all thermostats. Incidentally, 180o coolant temperature is great for an older engine to operate efficiently.
Waterpump - Depending on the car you have, make sure that it is lubricated properly and that the mounting bolts are tight. Wiggle the shaft both up/down and in/out. If there is movement you may want to replace the pump. This is generally a sign of major wear. Feel for dampness around the shaft seals, which is a sign of deterioration. This generally calls for pump replacement
Coolant - This is one of the most controversial subjects among hobbyists, as a lot of our cars were designed to run on only water with an alcohol based anti-freeze solution. As we know, water at atmospheric pressure boils at 212oF. When this happens, coolant boils out and our cars run hot. New cars run a mix of 50% coolant (ethylene glycol or propylene glycol to 50% water). They do this for two main reasons:
1 . Boiling point - 50/50 mixture boils at 227oF instead of 212oF.
2. Contains Corrosion inhibitors plus lubricates
the water pump.
Let me deal with each one of these areas separately.
Boiling Point - Naturally the higher the boiling point. the better for our cars. True? Yes, but the higher concentration there is of anti-freeze the poorer the heat transfer of the coolant solution. A 30% anti-freeze mix is about 20% less efficient in heat transfer. Any efficiency loss greater than this in newer cars is okay because of the system design improvements but 20% is maximum in our older systems. A pressurized cooling system will drastically raise the boiling point like a pressure cooker about 2o per pound of pressure. (a car with a 15 PSI system using a 50/50 mix will boil at 265o F). While we are talking about coolant concentration benefits. let's mention freeze protection. A 50% solution freezes at -34o and a 30% solution at about 0 which is more than adequate for our area (Georgia, USA)
Corrosion Inhibitors - A car cooling system is a battery, which by definition is two dissimilar metals suspended in acid. Just think of the types of metal the coolant comes in contact with and the coolant itself becomes more acidic with time. To prove this to yourself, take digital voltmeter and test the system the following way: Take the positive lead and put it in radiator without letting it touch anything but the liquid. Touch the other lead to the battery.
0.2 volts ....is great,
0.4 volts....is serviceable
and 0.6 volts... the solution is acidic and needs attention.
The corrosion inhibitors keep this electrolysis/corrosion from occurring, which prolongs the life of the system. Anti-freeze also contains foam suppressors to minimize the creation of foam that inhibits heat transfer capacity of the coolant solution.
So, I guess the bottom line is that a 30% coolant to water (distilled water preferfed), is the best all around solution we can use in our cars.
There are some other things that you may want to
consider in your cooling system tune-up:
Fan shroud- The best thing you can add, most heating problems are caused by incorrect air flow control.
Check lgnition Timing and Air Fuel Mixture - Lean mixtures and retarded ignition timing will also cause an engine to run hot.
Additives - Water pump lube and corrosion inhibitors can hurt. I think the jury is still out on the super cooling additives. If you have any hard proof let me know.
I hope all this helps?
You and your car have a real *cool* summer.
You can contact Steve in the States on 770-578-0251
The South Eastern MG T Register can be contacted on 770-938-2675 (Len Thomas)
Would you like to have that Easybleed you might have seen in the DIY catalogues? Do you
have trouble in justifying $40 for it, and then waiting a week to receive
it in the mail?
Me too!
I copied the design using things readily available at the hardware, grocery, and auto parts stores. I spent only a few dollars ( less than seven dollars in cash and two hours in assembly)
For those not familiar with the Easybleed, it's an apparatus designed to make bleeding brakes a one-person task. It uses air pressure from your spare tire to pressurize the fluid reservoir. Air, water, and old fluid in your brake system are automatically purged when you open a bleed nipple. There's no need for an assistant to sit in the cockpit and pump the brake pedal.
I've heard comments on problems with the real Easybleed. It comes with a collection of caps to fit most any reservoir, but it seems the caps usually don't fit tightly enough, so they tend to pop themselves off. My design doesn't have that problem, since you'll be using an actual cap from your reservoir.
Once it's all hooked up and pressurized (not excessively; you don't want
to blow a seal somewhere) you're ready to start bleeding.
The brakes, that is. Not yourself.
The bleeding procedure is identical to the way you'd normally do it, except nobody has to pump the brake pedal.
That's it!
Your own Easybleed clone at less than one-fourth the
price of the real thing.
In a recent exchange of emails after he had read my advice on preparing your MG for the British winter (What's winter? he asked), I asked Daniel what precautions he took to protect his car from the Californian heat......
Good question. Heat is a major problem here. The worst of it is from May through Oct although it has been know to hover in the 80s (F) for a week or more in Jan.
What this means for my day to day driver (75 Midget 1500) is a therm controlled oil cooler. Makes a big difference when I'm stuck in traffic on the way home in 90+ degree heat. Oil changes must be kept up or else. I feel that running a stright pipe to an oil cooler does more harm than good for most cars.
Also, one must keep the car covered all of the time. Heat and solor UV seems to eat up MGs. The driver must carry and drink a lot of water to counter the effects of the hot sun, hot wind & hot car.
I have also added several layers of padding under my carpets to keep the engine and pipe heat out of the cockpit.
So far I have been lucky, 186,000 miles on the orginal engine and I have never had the top off! Friends tell me I should rebuild it, but so far all seems well so why mess with it!
We do see cold weather from time to time. I have in fact seen ice on my windscreen (cold enough for me, thanks)! If one wishes a quick drive to the east (about two hours) will bring you all the ice and snow that one could ever want, thanks. For the most part we load up the family van (Voyager) for that trip. Its warm, allways runs...
Any way thanks for the quick come back. It's allways nice to hear from
other MG owners
Regards
Daniel
Thankyou Daniel for taking time to write to us
| Everthing you wanted to know about the MGF but were afraid to ask ! |
At the head of my list for ANY car, but especially one that's been around for many years: find and clean the drain holes on the underside of the doors and the corresponding drains on the underside of the body.
Sadly I have seen too many auto's with "car cancer" rusting
through the bottoms of the doors. And many "mechanics" I have
spoken to don't even know that drain holes exist !
It should be a capital offense to let an MGB rust away !
I recently picked up this qip after being caught in a downpour with a wayward wiper:
If one wiper is behaving erratically, improvise by turning the coiled rack through 180 degrees and/or turning the gear around by 180 degrees. This allows a better 'bite' between the two. If this gearing is beyond this and you're stuck - a gear and shaft from a mini will do temporarily.
Also, if the gearing jams - disconnect the wiper motor electrical connections immediately. With the ignition on, the motor will still try to park the wipers even if they are switched off.
Clean all electrical contacts the day you buy the car. It beats cleaning them one at a time as you have problems with them.
An important thing to remember for anyone who is rebuilding a BMC "B" series engine ( MGA, MGB ). When I rebuilt my 1622cc MGA engine, I decided to install the late "bucket style" tappets and longer pushrods from the late MGB engines. These have less mass than the early pedestal style tappets. When I tried to adjust the valves, I had the adjusters screwed all the way down to get the right clearance, so far that there was no room left for the locknut! After some frantic searching, I found that the threaded valve adjuster slugs on the 18V engine are about 3/16" longer than the ones on all the earlier engines. This is enough to allow the proper adjustment of the valves and still leave room for the locknut. The late adjuster slugs can be identified by the lack of an oil groove, the earlier slugs have an oil groove.
Mid 1970s through early 1980s Honda Civics and Accords ( maybe Honda Ballade and Triumph Acclaim? ) have a neat little rubber boot that covers their rear drum brake adjuster screws. This boot fits perfectly over the MGB rear brake adjuster, and prevents dirt and rust from forming. They have the added advantage of being easily removable for those Concours events! Check your breakers yards ( not your neighbor's Honda at midnight! ).
For all of you with MGs that have pressure type brake light switches ( MGA's and MGBs/Midgets with single circuit brakes ) - DO NOT use silicone ( DOT 5 ) brake fluid in these systems, unless you want to replace your brake light switch every three months or so. Although none of the recent debates on silicone fluid seem to mention this, I have had three brake light switches fail on two different cars, both using silicone fluid. Others on the Internet have noticed this also. It appears that the silicone fluid acts as an insulator and prevents the switches from making contact.
The solution? Stick with DOT 4 fluid and change it yearly, or put in a mechanical type switch on the brake pedal.
Fit an oil cooler, engine gets too hot under restricted space
in engine bay.
Extends life of engine.
1. Have money to spend on repairs
2. Have patience when trying to do your own repairs
3. Get good manuals and read
4. Have a passion for MGB's otherwise you will sell yours
5. Girl's and kids like B's
6. Don't expect tremendous gas mileage
7. Get to know a good mechanic
8. Get a copy of Victoria British Ltd. to order parts and accessories
9. Keep it in your garage, top down..ready to go
10. Keep it running and on the road to keep the tradition going
I converted my MGB Roadster(rubber bumper) in 1981, and it has been in
regular use over the past 16 years.
I'd stress several points. In my experience, the weak points are
a).... oil
b).... cooling, incl electric fans
c)..... electrics
The basic installation has been extremely reliable, but from
experience I'd stress.........
1. It is essential to use stainless steel braided oil hoses and route
them very carefully. Secure them properly, and avoid any chafing.
2. Route water hoses very carefully, again to avoid chafing and
flexing. Dont compromise anywhere. replace regularly. The radiator and
overflow tank must be in perfect condition, and the heater matrix too.
3. Always carry a spare water pump; these can fail suddenly and
without warning.
4. DO use an engine tie bar. I have had no problems with manifold
damage, but excessive engine movement can damage oil and water pipes.
5. I have an oil temperature and a water temperature gauge. Make sure
these work reliably. You will need them!
6. The electric fans must work 100%, and the wiring must be carried
out to the highest standards. If these fail when the car is
stationary, the system will boil in a very few minutes (always in a
traffic jam).
7. Use a stainless steel exhaust
Note: The following article was first printed in April 1992, and recently reprinted in the April 1997 issue of mgTalk, the article contains some useful information on the proper lubrication schedule for your T-Series MG.
At the tech Session last month, it became apparent that not everyone was completing a systematic program of lubrication. In some cases, this was the apparent result of benign neglect. In others, it is apparently due to lack of knowledge of what lubricant to use and where to use them. The following is a step by step discussion in which I hope I have included all appropriate items. The change time intervals are taken from the The MG Midget ( Series TD) Drivers Handbook
As discussed in previous articles, engine oil should be changed every 3000 mile or six months whichever comes first. The oil filter should also be changed at this interval. Recommended oil for the Southeastern climate is Castrol GTX 20w50 multigrade
The gearbox oil should be checked each 1000 miles and topped up to the "High" mark. It should be drained and refilled every 6000 miles. The recommended gearbox lubricant is an extreme pressue "EP" gear oil of 90 weight such as Castrol Hypoy C Gear Oil (SAE 80W90)
The rear axle lubricant should be checked every 1000 miles, also changed every 6000 miles, with the same oil as the gearbox. It should be filled to the level of the square-headed filler plug on the right front of the differential housing, just behind the rear universal joint. When changing the oil, be sure to clean the hollow center of the drain plug before it is replaced and tightened. ( Be sure to check this plug for tightness. A lost plug can spell disaster!!! )
The sterring rack also uses the 90 weight hypoy gear oil. A "grease" fitting is located in the front center of the rack housing. Use a handgun to apply ten strokes every 3000 miles. Don't overfill or the rackboots will leak or blow out.
The following items should be greased with a high quality lithium based grease. If the intervals are followed, several strokes of a hand gun should be sufficient:
Drive Shaft- Univeral Joints (2)....1000 miles
Sliding Joint (front)..1000 miles
King Pins- upper and lower........500 miles
Tie Rod Ends- (2)...................500 miles
Hand brake cable....................1000 miles
Brake/Clutch shaft (LHD Models).....500 miles
The front hubs and water pump use a "heavy" bearing grease. The grease available today requires little maintainance. However the recommended interval for the wheel bearings is 6000 miles, whereas the water pump require two strokes with a grease gun every 1000 miles
On TD's, the air cleaner sould recieve the same service interval as the engine oil, every 3000 miles. The filter element should be removed and cleaned in kerosene (or mineral spirits); then drained and dried. All sludge should be removed from the outer filter container; then wiped clean and refilled with engine oil (20W50) to the level indicated. Every 3000 miles the distributor cam lobes should be lightly smeared with a small ammount of lithium chassis grease. At the same interval, the generator should be lubricated with the same grease. To accomplish this, unsrew the lubricator screw at the rear of the generator, lift out the spring and pad, half fill with grease. Then replace the spring and pad, and screw the lubricator back into place.
Every 1000 miles a 20 weight, non detergent oil should be used to "top up" the carburetor damper.
At 3000 mile intervals, this same oil should be used to lubricate the distributor cam bearing, the cetrifugal advance weights, and the post on which the contact points pivot. In each case only a few
drops are needed and care should be taken to avoid oil on, or in close proximity to the point contacts.
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The following advice was originally written for the MG owner, who, may not be using their car on a regular daily basis. But for those of us that do use our MGs everyday, there are still some valuble points to take a note of !
Batteries are getting expensive and disposing of them is becoming a problem. They're full of lead, and lead is expensive and toxic. It's in everyone's interest to make batteries last as long as possible - apart, of course, from the people sell them to you!
The best way of making a lead-acid battery last as long as you can, is to keep it fully charged. I don't subscribe to the view that it's good for a Car batted to be completely discharged and then recharged from flat. Car batteries are generally designed differently from leisure batteries. They're not supposed to be completely flattened an then re-charged. You can sometimes get an apparent small improvement by flattening a battery and then re-charging it, but in the longer term you are abusing its plates quite badly and in all probability reducing its useful life considerably.
If you lay up your car for long periods and promise yourself that you'll charge the battery each week, and then don't, how about treating yourself to a mains timer? I have one which will switch on for 15 minutes a day, and cost me you less than £9. If you charge your battery for 15 minutes a day on a trickle charge then that that should do the trick and keep it nicely charged.
Relying on the alternator/dynamo to keep your battery up to scratch isn't the best way to do it . In a quest to make sure that you don't overcharge the battery, most of these are on the side of caution. You can charge your battery more fully statically using a battery charger. With a modern battery charger, overcharging the battery is extremely unlikely unless you are very careless.
It's a fallacy that most batteries fail in cold weather, that's only when the symptoms show. As a rule of thumb, the power output of a battery doubles with every 10 degrees centigrade rise in temperature. That means that the power output at 20 degrees centigrade in the summer is eight times that at -10 degrees centigrade on a bitter winter's morning. If you have a nice classic which you don't use in winter, why not take its battery/batteries off. keep them nice and warm in the house, and charged regularly using a timer. When the neighbour's cars won't start in midwinter, you can walk out with a warm battery, a set of jump leads, and fire-up their car with little problem. If you want to start your pride-and-joy every so often in mid winter, you'll have batteries capable of doing that too.
To make your batteries last as long as possible always keep them well topped-up, and this includes maintenance-free batteries, if you can gain access. Distilled water isn't strictly necessary.
You can use water obtained from defrosting fridges and freezers, water boiled in a kettle and then allowed to cool or even rain water. Going to your local shop and buying distilled water or de-ionized water for a car battery simply isn't worth it. Never top them up with fresh acid, you should only put acid in a battery if there has been a spillage of electrolyte. Generally, the old wives tales about keeping batteries up to scratch are just that. Don't treat each cell with an aspirin, keep those for a headache. Don't dose your battery with Epsom Salts or Glauber Salts either, you probably won't do it any harm, but you certainly won't do it any good. Additives that work just aren’t this simple.
Make sure that the top of your batteries are clean an dry. If they’re not you can get You can get conduction across the top, especially if a trace of the electrolyte has escaped by splashing on to the top of the case. If you've a hairline crack around where the lead terminal enters the case, I've always found that cleaning around the crack and then sealing it with Araldite always works nicely.
Of course, older batteries will begin to show their age, even with the best will in the world they won't last forever. When the time comes that you have to replace batteries, think carefully about how much you are prepare to pay. Will the battery that costs three times as much last three times as long? I doubt it! I always go for the cheapest battery I can find, and I have never been disappointed yet. My wife has a Triumph Spitfire (sorry about that !,) and it is just going through it’s sixth winter on a battery that cost £15.95 - It was treated with 'EDTA' when new and has been looked after properly since.
When you look after batteries properly you have to have an eye towards safety. Remember that when they charge, the gases given off create an explode mixture. Don't smoke near them! They are full of sulphuric acid, and this isn't nice when spilled. Keep them on the floor, the higher up you store them. the more likely they are to fall, break and spill. If. you do have an acid spillage - wash it down with masses of cold water, and ensure that the spilled acid never comes into contact with your eyes. Do you have problems around your batteries: on the car. You may have corrosion of the terminals, the leads or even on the surrounding body work. These can be caused by minute acid splashes or the evolution of acidic gases from the battery. Put Vaseline on the battery terminals once the leads are fitted. If you are suffering from surface corrosion on the bodywork near to the battery, try the following sequence: wash the affected area with dilute washing soda solution, let it dry, paint with Hammerite, and then after a month or two, restore to the original colour. I've never known it to fail yet (but you might know differently).
Finally. if you have any battery problems - remember that I am always happy to talk to you and offer some friendly advice.
My number is: 01462 814527
Kevin Martin,
Shefford,
Bedfordshire.
UK
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Reprinted from the South Eastern MG T Register, (September 1997), which in turn was a reprint from the Octagon Bulletin March 1997
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